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A DEWAT is an unserviceable gun that has an intact receiver, thus, as of the GCA of 1968, it is a machine gun. In 1955 the ATT decided that a gun that was a registered war souvenir (or for a time, a contraband unregistered gun) could be removed from the coverage of the NFA if it was rendered unserviceable by steel welding the breech closed, and steel welding the barrel to the frame. All this was to be done under the supervision of an ATT inspector. See Revenue Ruling 55-590. The gun became a wall hanger, ornament, like parts sets now. This was not the same as an unserviceable gun, which was still subject to the NFA, but exempt from the transfer tax. These steel welded guns were DEWAT’s. DEWAT stands for DEactivated WAr Trophy; it was regularly done for servicemen who wished to bring home NFA war souvenirs. It was also done to WWI and WWII era guns imported as surplus by companies like ARMEX International, and Interarmco, and then sold through the mail in ads in gun magazines. The glory days before 1968. A DEWAT must now be registered to be legal, there is no longer a legal difference between a DEWAT and an unserviceable weapon. A few states only allow individuals to own DEWAT machine guns, Iowa comes to mind.

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Key to Abbreviations
AOW – any other weapon
ATF – Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
ATT – Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division of the IRS, the pre-68 administrators of the NFA
C&R – curio and relic
CFR – Code of Federal Regulations
DD – destructive device
FET – federal excise tax
FFL – federal firearms license
GCA – Gun Control Act
NFA – National Firearms Act
SOT – special (occupational) taxpayer
USC – United States Code
DEWAT – De-activated war trophy

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Or you can make any NFA weapon, except for machine guns (see below), by filing a Form 1, “Application to Make and Register a Firearm”, and paying the $200 making tax, which applies to all of these weapons, including AOW’s. You may not make the proposed weapon until the Form 1 is returned to you approved. The law enforcement certification, photos and fingerprints also apply to Form 1′s, and in fact to any transfer to an individual. Additionally the manufacturer of any NFA weapon, including an individual making one on a Form 1 must mark the receiver of the weapon with the maker’s name and city and state. NFA Branch can grant exemptions from this for DD’s. All types of corporations, including corporate type 01 FFL holders, need not do the certification, photo and fingerprint requirements. Any of the forms listed, and the fingerprint cards, are available for free from ATF, either in Washington, D.C. or your local office.

A lost or stolen NFA firearm
A lost or stolen NFA firearm can be a real problem. It can be a very expensive loss, as well as endangering the continued lawfulness of owning NFA firearms, both at a state and federal level. Contrary to what you might hear, NFA firearms, machine guns and silencers in particular, are very rare in crime. A significant source of such weapons in crime is stolen NFA firearms, from law enforcement, the military and civilian collectors. A crime spree with a stolen NFA firearm can lead to restrictive state or local legislation, as well as local law enforcement refusing to continue providing the law enforcement certification needed for transfers to individuals. Safeguarding NFA firearms is not required, but seems to me to be extremely prudent, both to preserve the firearm, as well as its continued legal ownership. Reporting the theft of an NFA weapon to law enforcement is the only way to even have a chance at recovering the gun, and preventing its use (or further use) in crime. I think reporting its theft is a good idea. Below is what is required, as opposed to what is a good idea.

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eotech or Aimpoint which is better

Citadel99 June 6, 2004, 08:58 AM So, I’m wanting to get an optic for my M4gery. I also plan on strapping it to my M4 when I head off to Iraq this fall. So ruggedness, battery life, and all those little things that go hand in hand with having a weapon on your person 24/7/365 come in to play. I’m pretty much set on one of these two options. I’ve used an Aimpoint and really it. Never had the chance to use the EOTech, though… Thanks in advance, Mark dave3006 June 6, 2004, 09:23 AM I bought the EOtech and returned it. I own the Aimpoint Comp ML2. The EOtech was too big. It was like having a big screen TV mounted to my gun. The controls were slow and not intuitive. I did not like the busy circle/dot reticle. Batteries are really not an issue. You can leave the Aimpoint on for a year. greenmountaingear June 6, 2004, 09:59 AM EO TECH hands down. I dumped my Aimpoint shortly after buying a 552 EOtech . Liked the EO some much that I became a dist/dealer for them! Wouldn’t use anything else now. Rev.F 552′s have about 1000+hrs on a couple “AA”‘s. Never had any issues with any model I’ve owned and could acquire my targets far faster than with the aimpoint. Comes down to what works for you though Ever board has at least 6 of these threads, 120pages long…EO vs. Aimpoint. LOL! If ya ever need an EO or info, drop me a line! GMG Hutch June 6, 2004, 10:27 AM Well, glad you two guys cleared that up for me!!! Somebody else wade in and break the tie. N3rday June 6, 2004, 12:39 PM http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=164971 This topic has known to start flame wars…its all just personal preference. You might buy an EOtech, fall in love with it, and then finally use an Aimpoint and discover you like it better. To each his own. Just see if you can find some folks who would let you shoot theirs. MaceWindu June 6, 2004, 02:47 PM I like the Eotech….cheap and easily replaced batteries, great HUD, VERY accurate. Here is the EOtech 552 on top of my Custom mini…. http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Triggerman/ASIside001.bmp http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Triggerman/ASItarget001.bmp That is a dime for reference @ 80yrds. There are 3 separate groups there….EoTech gets my vote…. MaceWindu Blackhawk 6 June 6, 2004, 07:46 PM The EOtech is a good sight but of the two, has significantly more reliability issues. The Aimpoint is an excellent sight and holds up well under the rigors of military use. My recommendation is to go with the M-68. 444 June 6, 2004, 09:35 PM This question often inspires more than a few emotional responses. I prefer the Aimpoint. I have never owned an Eotech, but one of my best friends has one, so I am pretty familiar with it. I have shot his enough to know that I like mine better. More than one person in the know agrees with me. For example: Pat Rogers considers the Aimpoint to be clearly superior. warrior23 June 6, 2004, 10:29 PM Lets just say you cant go wrong with either site.Both are great sites my EOtech I feel is a little quicker in CQB,My Aimpoint works better for me at longer distances.So do what I did and buy Both! Rocko June 7, 2004, 12:03 PM I have both the EOtech 511 and the Aimpoint Comp M. While I like both, I feel that the EOtech is basically more advanced – at least from a user perspective if not a technical perspective. While the EOtech is a bigger, this also allows for a greater FOV – I don’t really even notice the housing of the EOtech as I do the tube on the aimpoint. From a total cost perspective on a flattop AR, the EOtech is also almost always going to win, as you don’t need to purchase a separate mount for it. The battery life issue was addressed in revision F, but I believe these are in short supply right now, which probably won’t change anytime soon. EOtech was just awarded a large contract for the SOPMOD2 project (along with Eclan and Trijicon) so most new production will likely be focused on that. Interestingly, Aimpoint, was NOT awarded part of that contract – reinforcing my idea that while both are good, the EOtech is the “new” while Aimpoint the “old”. Rocko

There is also a revolver definition, but it does not add anything except a provision for guns with revolving cylinders, rather than permanent chambers.

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Federal government agencies, the military, and National Guard need not comply with the registration or tax requirements, and generally speaking NFA Branch removes weapons from the Registry once they are transferred to the federal government.

Californians can legally possess any AOW, except a pen gun, as long as it is possessed in compliance with federal law. Likewise they can possess any C&R listed short rifle or short shotgun.

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Eotech

The HWS is actively in use with military forces around the globe, including many special operations forces, like USSOCOM, where it is standard for close quarter, urban combat. Military units like Stryker Brigade, 10th Mountain and 3rd Infantry have chosen the holographic weapon sight as its optic of choice. It is battle proven to withstand the abuse that any harsh environment, high powered weapon platform, or military mission can dish out.

[Note the difference between Federal Firearms License TYPE and Special (Occupational) Taxpayer CLASS.]

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Key to Abbreviations
AOW – any other weapon
ATF – Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
ATT – Alcohol and Tobacco Tax Division of the IRS, the pre-68 administrators of the NFA
C&R – curio and relic
CFR – Code of Federal Regulations
DD – destructive device
FET – federal excise tax
FFL – federal firearms license
GCA – Gun Control Act
NFA – National Firearms Act
SOT – special (occupational) taxpayer
USC – United States Code
DEWAT – De-activated war trophy

A Note about NFA Weapons and California
As a general rule the definitions of NFA weapons, as regulated in California, track exactly the federal definitions, and categories.

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KEY MG – machine gun SI – sound suppressor (silencer) SR – short barreled rifle SG – short shotgun AOW – any other weapon LBDD – large bore destructive device

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These weapons may also be further regulated by states or localities, and while these weapons can be legally owned under federal law, some states and localities further regulate ownership or prohibit it (see below). The NFA Branch of ATF administers the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, which necessarily encompasses most of the NFA regulation.

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However for HK guns it is pretty much all there is, especially if you want an MP-5 type gun. And if you want a version of the Colt 9mm AR machine gun, the auto sear route is more plentiful than the few registered receiver conversions, and the even fewer factory Colt guns, as the model was introduced (1985) right around the same time as the 1986 ban. And in general the sear or other registered part is cheaper to buy than the same gun as a registered receiver, both because you aren’t getting a gun also, and because it is less desirable. However you may find that due to the escalating value of the semi-auto host guns, the conversion part already installed in a host gun may cost as much as a registered receiver conversion of the same gun, like an IMI semi-auto UZI with a registered bolt installed versus a registered receiver UZI conversion. It pays to shop around.

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In all likelihood 18 USC sec. 922(o), the ban on civilian possession of machine guns registered after the law took effect, or never registered, precludes an Amnesty (as provided for under existing law) for machine guns. You could register it, and comply with the NFA, but you would still be in violation of sec. 922(o), because the gun would have been registered after the law took effect. The penalties are the same under either law. One could register all other categories of NFA guns at an Amnesty. Congress could also pass a law providing for an Amnesty, and override 922(o) in that manner.

The definition of “machinegun” in the NFA (26 USC sec. 5845(b)) includes parts to convert a gun into a machine gun. Note that conversion parts are not included in the definition of “firearm” under the Gun Control Act, one of the few things I know of that is a firearm under the NFA, but not the GCA. Thus the purchaser of a conversion part from an FFL need not do a 4473 form, unlike other NFA weapons. Of course the host gun, if purchased from an FFL, will require the 4473. This reading of the law is based on numerous statements from ATF, and the definition of “firearm” under the GCA, which requires it be able to expel a shot. However, at least one very slow judge has decided that somehow the definition of “firearm” in the GCA “incorporates” the definition of “machine gun” under the GCA (even though the law doesn’t say that) and that a machine gun conversion part is a “firearm” under the GCA as well as the NFA. I think the judge is clearly wrong, even ATF reads the law better than that, but the point is to be careful. The case is U.S. v. Hunter, 843 F.Supp 235 (E.D. Mich. 1994), and see also the same judge’s second opinion in the same case, at 863 F.Supp. 462 (E.D. Mich. 1994). These parts are called registered sears, as well as other parts or sets of parts to convert a gun into a machine gun.

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